tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584840770244929.post2988657921644714536..comments2024-03-22T11:32:57.801-07:00Comments on The Alien Next Door: Treacherous Ice Storms in Kentucky—What is Gaia Saying to Us?Nina Munteanuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00311070435293186699noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584840770244929.post-30071243757219598742009-02-14T09:28:00.000-08:002009-02-14T09:28:00.000-08:00p.s. How did Harrodsburg fare this time, Bobbi? Wh...p.s. How did Harrodsburg fare this time, Bobbi? Where is it in relation to Louisville? Guess I could check google maps... LOL!Nina Munteanuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00311070435293186699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584840770244929.post-30262888971712911672009-02-14T09:25:00.000-08:002009-02-14T09:25:00.000-08:00Glad to hear that it's finally warming up in the U...Glad to hear that it's finally warming up in the UK, Rumpleteazer. We just had another bit of snow here in the lower mainland of British Columbia...unheard of... We are definitely in for some interesting times. And all this "atypical" weather IS a function of climate change. The anecdotal information is too overwhelming. <BR/><BR/>Meantime, Kentucky is still recovering from the fallout of its icestorms. I heard that Louisville recently endured a 70 mph wind that knocked out power yet again... You'd think that Kentucky and the other states in Tornado Alley would have some of the best most skookum architecture in the world...Nina Munteanuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00311070435293186699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584840770244929.post-32150455065985559542009-02-14T05:23:00.000-08:002009-02-14T05:23:00.000-08:00You pictures on this post are beautiful. I think w...You pictures on this post are beautiful. I think we may have seen the last of the snow in the UK this year - it is apparently getting warmer next week. Still darn cold here today though!Rumpleteazerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04649567748800567318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584840770244929.post-36813590575489823622009-02-06T14:44:00.000-08:002009-02-06T14:44:00.000-08:00WOW! Twenty-two inches! Interesting... My son may ...WOW! Twenty-two inches! Interesting... My son may move over there! LOL!Nina Munteanuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00311070435293186699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584840770244929.post-44229474261563616032009-02-06T12:36:00.000-08:002009-02-06T12:36:00.000-08:00We were lucky, Nina...just a mild snowstorm. Londo...We were lucky, Nina...just a mild snowstorm. London & the south coast got it bad...22 inches in certain southern villages in one night.Jean-Luc Picardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01689798190618944262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584840770244929.post-66641824750340380452009-02-03T08:58:00.000-08:002009-02-03T08:58:00.000-08:00BTW, I did finally hear from my friends in Louisvi...BTW, I did finally hear from my friends in Louisville, and they are all okay. :DNina Munteanuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00311070435293186699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584840770244929.post-46633593184117234872009-02-03T08:56:00.000-08:002009-02-03T08:56:00.000-08:00Yes, oh yes! Very well said, MyrdinnYes, oh yes! Very well said, MyrdinnNina Munteanuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00311070435293186699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584840770244929.post-56099227559736044992009-02-03T08:45:00.000-08:002009-02-03T08:45:00.000-08:00Oh yes...I agree...and she's been talking for a lo...Oh yes...I agree...and she's been talking for a long time and not just through climate. That's just the latest tactic to get us to listen.<BR/><BR/>-MyrdinnAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584840770244929.post-67676735369872041072009-02-02T23:41:00.000-08:002009-02-02T23:41:00.000-08:00Excellent comments, Myrdinn, along with relevant l...Excellent comments, Myrdinn, along with relevant links (Thanks!)<BR/><BR/>I still think Gaia is "talking" to us... :)Nina Munteanuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00311070435293186699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584840770244929.post-29086767504881198992009-02-02T21:26:00.000-08:002009-02-02T21:26:00.000-08:00The temptation we have is to look at any unusual w...The temptation we have is to look at any unusual weather or year-long trend of weather and think it is because of global warming. This is just confounding weather and climate. <BR/><BR/>All a cold year or a hot year like 1998 (strong El Nino Southern Oscillaion-->ENSO) or 2005, 2007, mean is that we've had a cold or hot year. It may very well be linked to the global warming issue (i.e. increase in atmospheric CO2), but we generally cannot determine that. <BR/><BR/>And even looking at trends over 5 or 8 years can, and has, led people astray. For example, Mt. Pinatubo in 1991 blew up good and global temperatures cooled down by about 1 degree C. The 8-year trends starting in 1986, 87 and 88 are all negative/cooling trends. <BR/><BR/>Then 8-year trends starting in 92, 93, 94 show an exaggerated degree of warming as the effects lessen. The link here <BR/><BR/>http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2008/01/uncertainty-noise-and-the-art-of-model-data-comparison/<BR/><BR/>is about the use of short-term trends. Caveat: I didn't bother running the data to see if those negative and exaggerated warming trends were statistically significant or not...I'm just using them as an example of how things like that can affect short-term trend readings.<BR/><BR/>The ENSO is another event that can give misleading short-term trends. 1998 was a strong ENSO so short-term trends around that may be misleading. Likewise the year 2008 was cool so any short-term trends starting in 2008, 2009 may be misleading. Incidentally, 2008 was predicted to be cool in late 2007, and again in Jan/Feb 2008 due to La Nina (see link)<BR/><BR/>http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080211132843.htm<BR/><BR/>There have been attempts to take out the ENSO to see what climate trends would look like without the ENSO creating extra 'noise' or exaggerated trends (the same long-term trend emerges with or without the ENSO anyway). This article here<BR/><BR/>http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2008/07/global-trends-and-enso/#more-577<BR/><BR/>covers that, and links to some different ways this was tried (admittedly all imperfect). Some good points and counterpoints along with more links are hidden in the comments.<BR/><BR/>Now for something completely different, or at least fun, this link below is for the handy-dandy graphing sunspot plotter<BR/><BR/>http://www.spaceweather.com/glossary/sunspotplotter.htm<BR/><BR/>for anyone who is interested in knowing what the sunspots were doing on your birthday, or to see if hare populations actually do follow sunspot cycles, or if sunspot cycles are linked to your pet conspiracy theory, whatever it may be. <BR/><BR/>-MyrdinnAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584840770244929.post-1312084089721078692009-02-02T18:01:00.000-08:002009-02-02T18:01:00.000-08:00Very very good post, SF Girl, and yes, WE are Gaia...Very very good post, SF Girl, and yes, WE are Gaia, part of Gaia, and what is Gaia saying to us, you ask? SHE is telling to beware the Ides of March. And also this: to be very very careful how we live our lives and to jettison our fossil fuel addicted lifestyles NOW. As Jesse Ausubel said in 1989 and as i quote him in my new action work called "A Virtual Graduation Speech to the Class of 2099", http://tufts2099.blogspot.com ---- "We must tighten the noose around coal".<BR/><BR/>THAT is what Gaia telling us. But I fear it is too late. Time to start packing for polar cities in our future, year 2500 or so. The next 500 years will be okay, nada to worry about. The shite will hite the fane in 2500. Beware!DANIELBLOOMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05130493903696077379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584840770244929.post-81560008108318814522009-02-02T17:57:00.000-08:002009-02-02T17:57:00.000-08:00One of the really chaotic things about the Sun tha...One of the really chaotic things about the Sun that I read was a paper which said that the Sun's activity changes in complex cycles based primarily on the gravitational effects of the gas giants which pull and shift its plasma as they orbit.<BR/><BR/>Talk about butterfly effect...Mike Goadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01909276588431011926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584840770244929.post-28865177764215871262009-02-02T17:39:00.000-08:002009-02-02T17:39:00.000-08:00Cool post about sun spots, Mike. Thanks for the li...Cool post about sun spots, Mike. Thanks for the link. Yes, the whole issue of climate and climate change is indeed a complex one. I am certain that we will see much more of what you experienced in Arkansas...strange weather patterns, new paradigms...stable chaos?...Nina Munteanuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00311070435293186699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584840770244929.post-48364031753363814262009-02-02T17:08:00.000-08:002009-02-02T17:08:00.000-08:00We live in Arkansas and the forecast had us gettin...We live in Arkansas and the forecast had us getting the worst of it. We were lucky and only got about a quarter of an inch of ice -- and never even had our lights flicker.<BR/><BR/>Climate change is upon us and I, for one, am a little fearful that the global warming folks have it wrong by 180°. This winter may be but the beginning.<BR/><BR/>The Sun's sunspot activity is way down as is other indications of it's activity and is not rising as is expected during the eleven-year sunspot cycle. I've written more on it in a post <A HREF="http://exit78.com/weblog/the-sun-has-lost-its-spots/" REL="nofollow">The Sun Has Lost Its Spots</A>.Mike Goadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01909276588431011926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584840770244929.post-31954385835667560992009-02-02T14:26:00.000-08:002009-02-02T14:26:00.000-08:00Jean-Luc... what's happening in Birmingham? Sounds...Jean-Luc... what's happening in Birmingham? Sounds like you are having colder weather than is usual...We got a spate of snow here too--atypical for Vancouver. My son loves it though; it's great for skiing the local hills.Nina Munteanuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00311070435293186699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584840770244929.post-13371468620943360192009-02-02T14:23:00.000-08:002009-02-02T14:23:00.000-08:00Oh, lucky Harrodsburg, Bobbi. I'm glad for you. It...Oh, lucky Harrodsburg, Bobbi. I'm glad for you. It's so awful. I especially feel for the elderly who can't get around. Apparently some nursing homes were hit with power-outage too. I still haven't heard from my friends in Louisville ...Nina Munteanuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00311070435293186699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584840770244929.post-60594206934223490372009-02-02T12:25:00.000-08:002009-02-02T12:25:00.000-08:00It;'s the same in Britain, Nina. The country is co...It;'s the same in Britain, Nina. The country is covered in snow and getting worse. It looks very bad tomorrow.Jean-Luc Picardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01689798190618944262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584840770244929.post-47690757165182492762009-02-02T11:22:00.000-08:002009-02-02T11:22:00.000-08:00I live in Harrodsburg, Kentucky and our neighborho...I live in Harrodsburg, Kentucky and our neighborhood looks like a war-zone! Thankfully, we got power back on Saturday, but there are still thousands of people without electricity.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15334812243182354729noreply@blogger.com